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steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 23
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:12 pm

guardian enterprises 1604 7th st. Moline Ill. 309 736 3110. guardian communications 3322 38th ave. 309 277 1222.Kevin M.Baker owner.Telemarketer for dish network, mantra(ggw),credit card rates etc.please post if you can confirm.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 23
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:41 am

Very abusive telemarketer ,google any of these #s for hundreds of complaints.Violations include:recorded messages, predictive dialers,fake name on caller-ID,busy signal when you call back,calling people on DNC list and criminal telephone fraud.Any help or info really appreciated.


Mazilo--Joined: Jun 22, 2005Posts: 79
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:30 pm

What will happen if I call them? Will they grab my phone number from their caller ID and start to put it on their list to call?
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steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 23
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:22 pm

What to do if you get calls from one of these numbers:Answer the phone,otherwise they will just keep calling.Ask to be put on the DNC list.Note type of product or service mentioned,name of telemarketer, as well as the company for which they are selling.Post any info.here.File a complaint with your state Attorney General.Some states are actively pursuing this telemarketer(PA NC KY WA).File a complaint with the FCC.(888 225 5322)They will only use the enforcement bureau after a pattern of complaints.Same with the FTC(877 382 4357)You must also show fraud or abuse:deceptive practices,calling during restricted hours,failure to transmit callerID info etc.File a lawsuit.Call Guardian Communications (309 277 1222)and complain.Call Kevin M Baker (309 736 9167). Go to payphone-directory.org for more info.

uberwolf--Joined: Jul 19, 2005Posts: 4Location: Chicago, IL
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:19 pm

OK, so I found out about the number 206-278-9390 from this forum. THANK YOU for leading me to the heart of darkness. When I called Guardian, I spoke with a Josh Baker (that was the name that was given). I found it odd that when I called the 206 number that I received a fast busy. They did give a number to call back, but it had no termination point so therfore a fast busy. Anyone else get a fast busy? They claimed ignorance that it "wasn't working" I call BS. Anyone else out there try calling the number back and get a fast busy? Let me know. The fellow I spoke with was VERY rude. I kinda want to make it my mission to go after them.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 23
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:13 pm

Welcome aboard uberwolf,I've been on the same mission for 2 months and need all the help I can get. The 24 hr fast busy has been going on for at least a month. Check the payphone site for many examples.You're the 1'st to post after calling Guardian, hopefully more people will call and complain. Which # did you call Guardian Communications (399 277 1222) or Guardian Enterprises (309 736 3110)? Did you ask about DNC violation, recorded message etc.

uberwolf--Joined: Jul 19, 2005Posts: 4Location: Chicago, IL
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:25 pm

Hey there, I called the 3110 number. I didn't ask too much because I had to help my wife with my toddler. I am really wondering if they are related to a few predictive dialer incidents I have had hit my phone. It stinks because my PC that I ran my PBX off of died so I have to go with the old fashioned way of taking my calls instead of prefacing it with my PBX. Anywho, I am betting that Guardian is a front for a ton of these places. I wonder if we would be in the wrong to repeatedly call them with my own predictive dialer. I mean what the heck, use FWD (Free World Dial) and it is not really a phone number (hehehe). Oh well dare to dream. Send me a message sometime. It is good to have allies out there.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 23
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:17 am

uberwolf, predictive dialing incedents (hang up when you answer) seem to happen to about 90% of people called (see payphones). I think Guardian has at least 7#'s.One Attorney General worker thought there could be dozens.Call your A.G. (217 782 2024) but IL. is useless.Missouri (573 751 3321) is now investigating and has lots of info.What call did you get, lower credit cards, mortgage rates etc.

YeahImATelemarketer--Joined: Jul 25, 2005Posts: 22
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:43 am

Well you are wrong about a couple of things, but let me clarify for you some. To be taken off of the call list, all you have to do is call their office number, 309-277-1222. Be polite, give them your number, and thats it. "What will happen if I call them? Will they grab my phone number from their caller ID and start to put it on their list to call?" HELLO!? Obviously they called you so your number was already on their call list. You have some serious issues Mazilo. I wonder how much of your life has been wasted with your war against telemarketers, pretty sad really. "guardian enterprises 1604 7th st. Moline Ill. 309 736 3110. guardian communications 3322 38th ave. 309 277 1222.Kevin M.Baker owner.Telemarketer for dish network, mantra(ggw),credit card rates etc.please post if you can confirm." The only number there that will do any good is 309 277 1222 "Very abusive telemarketer ,google any of these #s for hundreds of complaints.Violations include:recorded messages, predictive dialers,fake name on caller-ID,busy signal when you call back,calling people on DNC list and criminal telephone fraud.Any help or info really appreciated." Very abusive? Care to explain? Telephone fraud? Care to post some links? Another misconception you guys have is that if you sign up for the national DNC list, there is a buffer time of when you can still be called without penalty. So just because you signup today for the DNC doesnt mean you can't recieve calls tommorow. Wow with all of your hate and energy for destroying telemarketers, just imagine how much good you guys could all do if you teamed up for a cause that was actually worth spending time on, like world hunger or something cool like that.

Dnemonic--Joined: Mar 30, 2005Posts: 22
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:11 am

YeahImATelemarketer wrote:
Wow with all of your hate and energy for destroying telemarketers, just imagine how much good you guys could all do if you teamed up for a cause that was actually worth spending time on, like world hunger or something cool like that.Imagine how much good telemarketers could do if they gave to society rather than took from it. There are givers and there are takers in life. You have clearly decided which side you want to be on. Which is exactly why people don't want to talk to you.

YeahImATelemarketer--Joined: Jul 25, 2005Posts: 22
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:57 pm

Wow, good job, you posted in 3 topics with no helpful information at all. Us telemarketers do give back to the society with our tax dollars. Millions of dollars in revenue are taxes each and every year. You're arguments are becoming more and more obsolete. Get some facts, and come back.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 23
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:40 pm

This is antitelemarketer.com, arguewithatelemarketer.com is 3 sites down.I stand by my post.

YeahImATelemarketer--Joined: Jul 25, 2005Posts: 22
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:23 pm

steve wrote:
This is antitelemarketer.com, arguewithatelemarketer.com is 3 sites down.I stand by my post.So basically what you are saying is none of your arguments hold up when questioned, so you just want us telemarketers to not correct you all the time right? Sorry but that's not going to work. If you are going to post information about us at least make it true.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 23
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:14 pm

When you call my house I don't want to talk to you.When you post on my thread I don't want to argue with you. What is so hard about that for you telemarkerters to understand?

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YeahImATelemarketer--Joined: Jul 25, 2005Posts: 22
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:31 pm

Same old excuse, can't back up your facts. yada yada.

Gweedo--Joined: Jul 25, 2005Posts: 2
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:08 pm

I followed 'yeahimatelemarketer's advice: "To be taken off of the call list, all you have to do is call their office number, 309-277-1222. Be polite, give them your number, and thats it. " and a fella named Josh was polite and said he would remove it right away. He asked if the 800 number didn't work, but I told him I knew nothing of an 800 number. Thanks YIaTelemarketer for your words of wisdom. BTW does the TELEZAPPER work well?

YeahImATelemarketer--Joined: Jul 25, 2005Posts: 22
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:23 pm

Hi, no problem, a lot of us telemarketers aren't evil, we are human beings just like you. If you are polite to us, we are polite to you simple as that.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:45 pm

O.K YeaT. Here are the facts you wanted." To be taken off of the call list, all you have to do is call their office number, 309-277-1222. Be polite, give them your number, and thats it". How would you know how to do that? The caller-ID numbers are fake as are the caller-ID names (SAT Inc, cust service, card services, TMC etc.) Nobody would even know it was Guardian calling if I hadn't investigated them. Besides why should I have to call them when I'm already on the Federal and state DNC?You wanted some examples of fraud. The Berrien County Sheriff's Office March 30 took an attempted telephone fraud concerning a refund of back income taxes, according to Deputy Karen Klug of the Crime Prevention Unit. The caller identified themselves as federal government IRS agents and called the home owner by name. The female agent stated that the home owner had a large refund to collect due to uncollected past income taxes. The IRS agent stated that she needed the home owner's current name, address, Social Security number and bank information to forward the refund. The home owner had caller ID and obtained the telephone number. The alert home owner hung up and contacted the sheriff's office. The investigating deputy called the number and obtained the name of Guardian out of Seattle, Wash., with a telephone number of (206) 415-9327. The deputy, upon calling the number back, stated it does nothing but ring. You asked "very abusive, care to explain"? Abusive telemarketer example #1. .I also have gotten several calls from 206-278-9390 and my son answered and a male said, "May I interest you in...". My son interrupted him and said, "Sir, I'm sorry but it'a bad time wecause we're on our way out, so you can try back later. The guy called back immediately and said, "F--- you"...and hung up. Who the heck are these people? I tried to call back three times, but got a fast busy also. Abusive telemarketer example #2.TOPIC - 206-415-8940 DATE - 07/15/05 13:30:05 FROM - Jon Alabama I received numerous calls from this #. The caller hung up every time I answered the phone with my company name. I received 5 calls in one afternoon from this # and never spoke to anyone! Abusive t.m. example #3. TOPIC - 206-415-8940 DATE - 07/14/05 04:13:28 FROM - Curtis Oregon Called by 206-415-8940 at 9:33 AM on July 13, 2005. Automated message saying something like--"This is your credit card company. This is not an urgent call. You can save on your interest rates by talking to our customer service by pressing "1" now." I connected to customer service. After about 30 seconds, a live female voice came on. She started to talk about some offer--I interrupted her to tell her I wanted off their list. She said, "You act as if this is killing you or something." I responded,"Yes, it is." She said,"Well, hurry up and die." I said,"You, too." She hung up. The company name on my caller ID is Card Services. I have since registered my number with the national no-call list (donotcall.gov). Abusive t.m. example #4. TOPIC - 206-278-9390 DATE - 07/08/05 18:21:46 FROM - Stephanie Pennsylvania This number called my house tonight..Saw it on my caller id, and I tried calling it back and it comes up all circuits are busy..I called my phone company to see if there is a listing and there isn't. Who are these people and why are they calling. You can't call the number back. It's annoying when you are on the federal do not call list and these people keep calling. They have called several times before. Anyone have any info on who they are..all I know is they are in Seattle Washington. If you know anything please send me an email.. Thanks Example #5. TOPIC - 206 278-9390 DATE - 07/08/05 08:08:49 FROM - Annoyed VTer Vermont Received a voice mail message from this number on 7/6 at 1:27 PM EDT. Caller ID listed SAT INC and indicated another call earlier in the day without a voice mail message. The message left was a series of bangings perhaps with a hammer, then heavy breathing then a disguised husky mail voice stating "I'm going to get you...." Anyone had similiary experiences as police here are now investigating this event? Helpful information would be appreciated. So where was I" wrong about a couple of things" ? Your other comments had nothing to do with my post.

YeahImATelemarketer--Joined: Jul 25, 2005Posts: 22
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:22 pm

steve wrote:
O.K YeaT. Here are the facts you wanted." To be taken off of the call list, all you have to do is call their office number, 309-277-1222. Be polite, give them your number, and thats it". How would you know how to do that? The caller-ID numbers are fake as are the caller-ID names (SAT Inc, cust service, card services, TMC etc.) Nobody would even know it was Guardian calling if I hadn't investigated them. Wrong, the caller ID's work fine, when I spoke with them they said that there was a problem with their system but it was working fine now. When you call off of a callerID, it automatically puts you on their DNC list which gets updated regularly. The callerID numbers aren't fake, they go to system for DNC's like I stated earlier.
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Besides why should I have to call them when I'm already on the Federal and state DNC? If you are on the national DNC list you wouldn't have been called by them, they scrub more than the required times each month against an updated national DNC list. If you just subscribe, there is a buffer time of when you can still be called with no penalties. Also, if it is for a political reason, or a fund raiser you can still be called even if you are on the national DNC list. Now for the fun part :
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You wanted some examples of fraud. The Berrien County Sheriff's Office March 30 took an attempted telephone fraud concerning a refund of back income taxes, according to Deputy Karen Klug of the Crime Prevention Unit. The caller identified themselves as federal government IRS agents and called the home owner by name. The female agent stated that the home owner had a large refund to collect due to uncollected past income taxes. The IRS agent stated that she needed the home owner's current name, address, Social Security number and bank information to forward the refund. The home owner had caller ID and obtained the telephone number. The alert home owner hung up and contacted the sheriff's office. The investigating deputy called the number and obtained the name of Guardian out of Seattle, Wash., with a telephone number of (206) 415-9327. The deputy, upon calling the number back, stated it does nothing but ring. Pure bullshit.
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You asked "very abusive, care to explain"? Abusive telemarketer example #1. .I also have gotten several calls from 206-278-9390 and my son answered and a male said, "May I interest you in...". My son interrupted him and said, "Sir, I'm sorry but it'a bad time wecause we're on our way out, so you can try back later. The guy called back immediately and said, "F--- you"...and hung up. Who the heck are these people? I tried to call back three times, but got a fast busy also. You have got to be kidding me.
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Abusive telemarketer example #2.TOPIC - 206-415-8940 DATE - 07/15/05 13:30:05 FROM - Jon Alabama I received numerous calls from this #. The caller hung up every time I answered the phone with my company name. I received 5 calls in one afternoon from this # and never spoke to anyone! Abusive t.m. example #3. wow... thats so abusive, it must have hurt them alot to have that happen to them.
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TOPIC - 206-415-8940 DATE - 07/14/05 04:13:28 FROM - Curtis Oregon Called by 206-415-8940 at 9:33 AM on July 13, 2005. Automated message saying something like--"This is your credit card company. This is not an urgent call. You can save on your interest rates by talking to our customer service by pressing "1" now." I connected to customer service. After about 30 seconds, a live female voice came on. She started to talk about some offer--I interrupted her to tell her I wanted off their list. She said, "You act as if this is killing you or something." I responded,"Yes, it is." She said,"Well, hurry up and die." I said,"You, too." She hung up. The company name on my caller ID is Card Services. I have since registered my number with the national no-call list (donotcall.gov). Can't they come up with a more believable story than this? There is no way a company would let their TSR's talk to customers this way.
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Example #5. TOPIC - 206 278-9390 DATE - 07/08/05 08:08:49 FROM - Annoyed VTer Vermont Received a voice mail message from this number on 7/6 at 1:27 PM EDT. Caller ID listed SAT INC and indicated another call earlier in the day without a voice mail message. The message left was a series of bangings perhaps with a hammer, then heavy breathing then a disguised husky mail voice stating "I'm going to get you...." Anyone had similiary experiences as police here are now investigating this event? Helpful information would be appreciated. HAHAHAHAHHAHA you have got to be kidding me.
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So where was I" wrong about a couple of things" ? Your other comments had nothing to do with my post.Where are some believable complaints.. None of these are even remotely plausable. You can do better than this can't you?

LTSavGA--Joined: Jul 26, 2005Posts: 1
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:48 pm

Actually, YeahIm, I just received a similar call today -- an automated voice message system from "Card Services" at 206-415-8940 told me that I could lower my credit card rate by pressing "1" to talk with customer service. I did so, in order to be removed from their list, and had a bright and happy young woman tell me that "any credit card" can have its rate lowered. After further polite prodding (I was VERY interested in their business model), she dropped a "F---" and hung up on me. I tried to call back, only to receive fast busies (as detailed in this message thread). I firmly believe Steve and the list of complaints about this company. I feel sorry for those that convince the poor sucker on the other end; forfeiting a credit card number to these pihrannas would probably take years to sort out.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:40 pm

YeaT Grow up, they lied to you. Guardian Communications is a illegal telemarketer. Predictive dialers and recorded messages are illegal. They don't care about the DNC list. If you work for a legal TM thats fine.You and Dick can take turns calling the 12 people left in America that want to buy shit from a TM. Do you think all these people are just making this stuff up? Why? You wanted some "believable complaints." O.K. TOPIC - 206-415-9322 DATE - 07/19/05 14:31:14 FROM - CSVP California The number 206-415-9322 is being used to place calls to our toll-free customers and is causing many issues with their toll-free service. I am a Vice-President of a company that provides toll-free numbers for tracking and analysis. The stated purpose of the call is for a market survey but it is my belief that this is bogus information and the number is being used to run up the bills of toll-free users. Please begin an investigation of this fraud. Thanks. TOPIC - 206-278-9390 DATE - 07/18/05 17:03:08 FROM - Sheena Pennsylvania That number just called my house and did that damn hang up s*** they wait till you say hello like 2 or 3 times then the f***ers hang up on you!! Has anyone found more info on this SAT-INC!! TOPIC - 206-278-9390 DATE - 07/16/05 08:46:34 FROM - axlotel Vermont I am receiving so many phone calls from this number and when I answer they hang up. I have tried calling it back to see what company or person picks up but it just is a busy signal. The name on my caller ID is SAT-Inc. How do I get rid of these people. TOPIC - 206-278-9390 DATE - 07/14/05 00:47:03 FROM - TexasMad Texas I have been receiving phone calls from this number since June 2nd. They are calling me from 4 different #'s; 206-278-9390, 206-415-9148, 206-415-8614, 206-415-9369. They do not leave a message on the answering machine, and when I answer they listen for a few seconds and then hang up. I have tried also to reach someone..."the mailbox is full", busy, no answer and yesterday got the recording about leaving your phone number to be put on the do not call list. Now I am very concerned that I left my number, because at 6:00 AM CST I started having something strange going on with my answering machine...it started (announcing my message) but the phone doesn't ring! This is happening every 5-10 minutes. When I pick up my phone, at any point, I don't get a dial tone or it takes several minutes to get a dial tone. I have now unplugged my phone and answering machine. Has anyone had this problem, or know what "they" could have done to my line (use DSL for computer)?? TOPIC - Calls every day DATE - 07/13/05 19:00:06 FROM - Sheri Chattanooga tn We are getting calls every day almost from 206-415-8940 and my husband works at night and sleeps during the day and I am TIRED of it!! It has been going on for a couple of months. TOPIC - 206-415-8940 DATE - 07/13/05 13:15:03 FROM - Kirk S.E. Michigan I recieved a call today from 206-415-8940 on my cell phone from a pre-recorded voice. I believe this violates telemarketing laws because the US telemarketing laws prohibit telemarketing with prerecorded or artificial voices to cell phones (home phones too, unless they recieved consent to do so) TOPIC - 206-278-9390 DATE - 07/11/05 19:16:16 FROM - MissSanDiego San Diego, Ca I got a few calls from this number too. It's been going on for over a month now. They even call me in the middle of the night and wake my newborn baby. It's really strange! keep up the investigating, because I'd like to see these suckers get busted! TOPIC - 206-278-9390 DATE - 07/08/05 18:21:46 FROM - Stephanie Pennsylvania This number called my house tonight..Saw it on my caller id, and I tried calling it back and it comes up all circuits are busy..I called my phone company to see if there is a listing and there isn't. Who are these people and why are they calling. You can't call the number back. It's annoying when you are on the federal do not call list and these people keep calling. They have called several times before. Anyone have any info on who they are..all I know is they are in Seattle Washington. If you know anything please send me an email.. Thanks TOPIC - 206-278-9390 DATE - 07/07/05 16:40:06 FROM - Fed Up Vermont I have been getting "hang-up" calls from this number for over two months. Some days they begin at 8 in the morning and do not end until 2 in the morning. At times the number is blocked and at other times I am able to retrieve it. I have received up to eight "hang-up" calls in one day. TOPIC - Maranthon Communications DATE - 07/06/05 17:40:27 FROM - Mike Virginia How to fight Marathon Communications. I am a lawyer from Washington State (although I now live in Virginia). I too have received fraudulent marketing calls from 206.415.8940 and 206.278.9390. I talked to the Consumer Protection Division of the Washington State Attorney General's Office. They said that all people who feel that they have been harmed by these calls should file a complaint as I am doing. Here is the link to file a complaint: http://www.atg.wa.gov/consumer/forms/ The Federal Regulations Sec. 310.3(a)(4) prohibit any person from making false statements in a telemarketing pitch (my paraphrase). Sec. 310.3(b) prohibits any person from aiding another in committing fraud. Marathon knows that it is aiding whoever this marketeer is because it has received sufficient complaints. Marathon knows that the marketeer is using these numbers as a fraudulent cloak--they are not valid call back numbers. Marathon has a duty to stop the misuse of its numbers but it is a small business (40 employees or so) and has not chosen to do so. The person I spoke to at Marathon said that they would reveal the owner of these numbers only upon receiving a subpoena. Therefore everyone receiving these calls should file a complaint with the Washington Attorney General's office against Marathon for aiding and abetting this illegal telemarketer. Please do this so that the AG will take action. TOPIC - 206-278-9390 DATE - 06/22/05 18:27:37 FROM - sammie mims,florida i have been getting calls from this number also.in the past 4 weeks they call atleast 5 times a day.from what i am getting from this site it is some kind of satellite company. i know im just tired of the freaking calls,if anyone can find out where exactly it is comeing from,i will go up there and kick the peoples ass that keeps calling.thanks for all the info.have a nice day. Now, I'm asking you politely, would you please stay off my thread.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:12 pm

Telemarketers are required to connect their call to a sales representative within two seconds of the consumer's greeting. This will reduce the number of "dead air" or hang-up calls you get from telemarketers. These calls result from the use of automatic dialing equipment that sometimes reaches more numbers than there are available sales representatives. In addition, when the telemarketer doesn't have a representative standing by, a recorded message must play to let you know who's calling and the number they're calling from. The law prohibits a recorded sales pitch in a cold call. And to give you time to answer the phone, the telemarketer may not hang up on an unanswered call before 15 seconds or four rings. Calling times are restricted to the hours between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. Beginning January 29, 2004, telemarketers must transmit their telephone number and if possible, their name, to your caller ID service. This will protect your privacy, increase accountability on the telemarketer's part, and help in law enforcement efforts. Guardian violates all of these FTC rules.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:29 pm

PA Sues Florida Travel Promoter and Telemarketer in 'Do Not Call' Investigation By Pat Camuso Mar 24, 2005, 10:56am HARRISBURG, Pa - two separate lawsuits were filed yesterday in Commonwealth Court accusing a Florida-based travel promoter and its telemarketer of ignoring prior warnings and illegally contacting nearly 200 Pennsylvania consumers officially registered on the state's "no call" list. The complaints came from consumers located across 13 Pennsylvania counties. According to Attorney General Tom Corbett, the civil lawsuit seeks a record $190,000 fine for alleged violations of Pennsylvania's Telemarketer Registration Act, and a permanent injunction that would bar the defendants from doing business in the Commonwealth. The following travel industry parties were named as defendants: - Teleplex Inc., 5703 Red Bug Lane, Winter Springs, Florida. - Bradlea Heath, individually, and Teleplex Inc. owner, 829 Fantasy Lane, Chuluota, Florida. Heath and Teleplex Inc., doing business as Host Resorts, 587 Highway 434, Longwood, Florida. The following telemarketing industry defendants were named in a separate lawsuit: - Guardian Communications Inc., 1604 Seventh Street, Moline, Illinois. - Joel J. Knox, and Kevin M. Baker, each individually, and as owners of Guardian Communications Inc. According to Bureau of Consumer Protection agents, Host Resorts in 2004 hired Guardian Communications to conduct its telemarketing campaign. The campaign was initiated to sell Pennsylvania consumers discount travel packages to Florida which included free tickets to Disney World as incentive. Early on in the telemarketing campaign, the bureau allegedly received complaints from consumers who claimed that they were contacted by the defendants, even though the consumers' names and home telephone numbers were officially placed on the state's "do not call" registry. Investigators said the defendants ignored the bureau's warning to immediately cease telemarketing in the state, until their consumer contact list was in compliance with Pennsylvania's "no call" law. Consumers who continued to receive the unwanted solicitations, claimed that once they told the telemarketers that they were on the "no call" list, the callers either hung up or falsely claimed that: - They did not see the consumers name on the "no call" list. - They were following up on a package that they had mailed to the consumer when in reality they did not send the consumer a package. - They must have dialed the consumers' number in error. "The defendants boldly ignored the Commonwealth's warning, suggesting that they had no intention of complying with Pennsylvania's 'no call' law," Corbett said. "In our view, the defendants' decision to continue violating the law in the hope that their actions would go undetected was the wrong decision." The lawsuits accuse the defendants of several counts including: - Failure to purchase Pennsylvania's "no call" list prior to engaging in telemarketing activities in the Commonwealth. - Contacting consumers who properly registered their names and telephone numbers on the state's "no call registry." - Deceiving consumers about the caller's identity and the purpose of the call. - Intentionally blocking their business name and telephone number from consumers' caller-ID devices or systems. Corbett's suits against the defendants ask the court to: - Impose a record $190,000 civil penalty. - Require the defendants to permanently forfeit their right to conduct business in Pennsylvania. - Require the defendants to pay the Commonwealth's costs of investigation.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:19 pm

Kevin M. Baker Blue World Technologies, Inc. dba Guardian Communications, Inc. 3322 38th ave Moline IL 61265 (309 277 1222) dba Guardian Enterprises, LLC dba GRDN Enterprises, LLC dba Moments In Time 1604 7th Street Moline, IL 61265 309-736-3110 309-277-0682 800-317-6139 Kevin M. Baker Blue World Technologies, Inc. 3800 37th Avenue Moline, IL 61265 309-736-9167 800-317-6139

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:19 pm

August 4, 2003 Guardian Communications a.k.a. Guardian Satellite 736 Federal Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 Attn: John McVay, General Manager RE: EB-03-TC-066 Dear Mr. McVay: This is an official CITATION issued pursuant to section 503(b)(5) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended (the Act), for violations of the Act and the Federal Communications Commission’s rules that govern telephone solicitation. It has come to our attention that your company has delivered one or more prerecorded unsolicited advertisements to residential telephone lines (see attachment). The Act and the Commission’s rules prohibit transmission of unsolicited advertisements through prerecorded messages to residential telephone lines except under the very limited circumstances described in the rules. The term “unsolicited advertisement” is defined in the Communications Act and the Commission’s rules as “any material advertising the commercial availability or quality of any property, goods, or services which is transmitted to any person without that person’s prior express invitation or permission.” The attached information provided to the Commission indicates that your company delivered such unsolicited advertisements, through prerecorded messages, to one or more residential telephone subscribers who do not have an established business relationship with your company and had not expressly invited or authorized the call(s). Those actions violate section 64.1200(a)(2) of the Commission’s rules. Please be advised that subsequent violations of the Communications Act or of the Commission’s rules of the type described herein may result in the imposition of monetary forfeitures not to exceed $11,000 for each such violation or each day of a continuing violation. Kurt A. Schroeder Deputy Chief Telecommunications Consumers Division Enforcement Bureau Federal Communications Commission 445-12th Street, S.W. Washington, D.C. 20554

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:34 pm

Mortgage telescammer In a telescamming call which my machine got on Wednesday, the caller attempted to impersonate a business I'm dealing with. The call, from "Mortgage Services," showed a caller ID number of 206-415-8880 and a name of "CUST SERVICE." The message said in part: This call is regarding a payment decrease on your current mortgage. As a preferred customer, our mortgage [unclear] shows that you're prequalified for a lower interest rate, dropping your monthly payment. To get my rate lowered, I had to respond the same day, the message claimed, and invited my answering machine to press 1. (I don't have an AI-equipped machine, so it didn't.) The caller didn't say what mortgage company he claimed to represent, unless there's one called "Mortgage Services." This kind of generalized scam is crude and unconvincing, but it's a short step from these to calls that claim to represent specific companies, which victims may take as authentic. With the cost of long-distance calls asymptotically dropping to zero, we can expect to see the crooks who run various email scams branch out to telephone fraud at an increasing rate. Google turns up the following: "206-415-8880 is the phone number of the Card Holders Services. They say we have a little time left to get a deal on rates for our credit cards. I tell them each time to not call back and take us off their list. Yet I just received our 3rd call today in the past three months. Every month we get on. The idiot on the phone said, 'three calls in three months isn't bad'. Whatever, I said take us off your list each time."

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:03 pm

( Post 1 )My fiance and I, both college students, have been looking to go on a vacation for our graduation present. We were called today by a company who on the caller idea had the name "Guardian".. number was 206-415-9327, and it started out with a machine recording offering the 299 deal, and that I also won a free trip to Orlando Florida, press one to connect to an operator. I of course hit 1, I was intrigued! The operator gave the speel of 299 a person to cancun, 10 resorts, all bills payed, food and drink and beach and hotel. My GF and I looked at eachother and danced with happiness, but I asked is there a catch, of course they said no, I went to Cancuninclusive.net, saw the site, even called the number back, and was connected back to Joel, the original operator. I was convinced, it had to be real. Untillll I read this website. It scared the living crapola out of me. Now I'm not sure, will I get to go at all? And time share meetings? Now I want to cancel, but obviously their website/people say no cancellations. So seeing that a payment hadn't gone through, I put a stop payment on my account on the charge to be charged, I'm not going to waste money on this obvious scam, but now Im worried that since I agreed to pay. What do I do? What can I do? ( Post 2 ) I GOT SCAMMED OUT OF $638. UNFORTUNATELY WHEN I TRIED TO CANCEL AND GET MY REFUND THEY REFUSED AND SAID THERE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE. AND AFTER TALKING TO THEM AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE PRETTY FAMOUS ONLINE FOR BEING RIP OFF ARTISTS AND IINFORMED THEM THAT I WILL BE TAKING LEGAL ACTION(I WAS BLUFFING I HAVE NEITHER THE TIME NOR MONEY TO RESORT TO THAT) THEY HUNG UP ON ME AND SAID "HAVE FUN" . I CALLED THE BANK TO PUT A STOP TO IT BUT IT SEEMS THEY HAD BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH. THE MONEY HAD BEEN ALREADY REMOVED FORM MY ACCOUNT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. THE BANK SAID THEY WILL TRY TO INVESTIGATE AND WILL WRITE A LETTER TO THE COMPANY AND TEMPORARILY REPLACE THE MONEY . BUT BEING THAT THEY ARE KNOWN TO NOT EVEN RESPOND TO LETTERS . I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO OTHER THAN ACCEPT THAT I WAS PLAYED!!!! ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS . AND WHATS THIS THAT I HEAR WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO CANCEL? AND HOW CAN THAT BE RELEVENT TO ME WHEN THEY REFUSE TO DO SO ( Post 3) Let me give you guys another inside story, Travelcomm so call allinclusive cancun, now they change their name to MX resorts AFTER BEEN IN CBS news, In case peoples credit card do not go through what they tell people is that they going to send it to collection. DOES THESE TRAVELCOMM TAKE PEOPLE FOR DUMB ASSES?

teleurselftohell--Joined: Jul 27, 2005Posts: 1
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:11 am

SAT INC 206-278-9390 Guardian 206-415-9327 May it be noted that I have called and demanded my # be removed. But how convenient that the woman who answered the phone "couldn't hear me". I will expect more calls. Put myself on the National DNC list a couple of weeks ago .. I do realize it takes "up to" 30 days. I will be watching the calendar. I work seasonal for a Teleservices company. I provide outstanding service to my customers. But they call me. I don't relate to ppl who call me and pester me for anything. If I want to purchase a product or need a service, I will seek it out on my own. Currently contacting our Attorney General, or equivalent of, not so sure how things work in a 'commonwealth'. And would someone please explain to me why they don't answer? If I were so insipid as to harass people, I'd at least be trying to make a buck, eh?

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:29 pm

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And would someone please explain to me why they don't answer? If I were so insipid as to harass people, I'd at least be trying to make a buck, eh?That's what everybody wants to know. It could be a predictive dialer that calls many numbers and if no live operator is available it hangs up.Other people think it's a war dialer that calls every possible # and when you answer they know they have a real person.

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YeahImATelemarketer--Joined: Jul 25, 2005Posts: 22
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:31 am

It must suck having no life steve. I pity you.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 24
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:27 am

Guardian Communication (309 277 1222) may have a new number. Ben in Florida Says: July 26th, 2005 at 10:07 am Got a call, but from a different number than everyone else (slightly). The number I received a call from was 206-415-9247. I googled it with no success, so then I googled just 206-415 and found this website. Same thing happened to me. I checked my cell phone, found out I had a missed call, tried to call it back, and got a busy signal. Weird. Ulysses Says: July 28th, 2005 at 1:38 pm I got the call from the 206-415-9247. It does the same thing, out of order signal. I called the FCC and they say they will make sure I don’t get called again. Mrs. Coulter Says: July 29th, 2005 at 1:02 pm I just got one of these myself (the caller ID said 206-415-9247). It was an automated call in Spanish–something something aprime numero dos and then silence. I just hung up on it…no way am I pressing anything in those conditions! I got here by Googling “206-415″. I guess the next thing is to report it to the FCC. Mrs. Coulter Says: July 29th, 2005 at 1:16 pm OK, I just talked to the FCC. Without having the name of the company (which I didn’t have since the call was in Spanish), they can’t do anything about an individual complaint. However, they said that if enough people complain about calls from a particular number, that may trigger an investigation. So, if you land here by Googling 206-415-9247 or any variation on 206-415-xxxx, please call the FCC hotline (1-888-225-5322; press 0 to speak to an operator) and complain Adam Says: July 29th, 2005 at 4:15 pm I got here by google also…my co-worker got this phone call on his cell phone while we were at lunch a day or two ago “etc etc marque uno ahora etc etc”, and we just wrote it off as annoying. I got the phone call (206) 415 9247 today (same spanish message) and googled my way to this page. http://www.telcodata.us/telcodata/telco?npa=206&exchange=415 shows that GUARDIAN owns it, as many people here say. I called the FCC (1-888-225-5322; press 0 to speak to an operator), left a message (and told him it was Guardian) as per Mrs. Coulter’s instructions, and he advised me to do the following: 1) Call 1 (888) 382-1222 to register my phone on the DO NOT CALL List. He told me to tell my co-worker to do the same on his phone. 2) If I get the call again, he told me to call the DO NOT CALL List again and press (4) to register a complaint with the phone number. Anyone who has already regeistered with the DO NOT CALL List that gets calls from this number should do this! 3) If I get the call again, he told me to also call the FTC and report a “weird telemarketer.” It would be interesting to know what the message is, but my spanish is a bit rusty (even though I’m in California). Can anyone post a translation?

Mazilo--Joined: Jun 22, 2005Posts: 80
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:34 am

YeahImATelemarketer wrote:
It must suck having no life steve. I pity you.This is just my opinion: Steve does not even sound like having no life. As a matter of fact, he sounded like a person who knew how to enjoy life. However, it is the telemarketing business completely ruinned his plans. Do you suppose pointing finger back to Steve and saying he has no life is an average American Patriot would have said? I do know and have lots of American patriotic friends here in the UK and around the world, i.e. these are the real American people who have gone abroad to see and understand what a real world is and have appreciated to learn from different cultures. Now that I think of it, it seemed to me that only a real low-life scum people who work as telemarketers, particularly the ones who lurk here (i.e. DICK HEAD GAGGINGYA), are having no life at all.
_________________Mazilo. UK Non-Geo Phone: +44-703-194-2574 e-mail: mazilo@kicking.dick-head-gazinya.BoldlyGoingNoWhere.org (created on Sun Jul 17, 2005 just for DICK GAZINYA to contact me)

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 24
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:43 pm

Even gangsta's get calls from Guardian. TOPIC - These bitches DATE - 07/27/05 18:54:06 FROM - pissed off in Minnesota Minneapolis, Minnesota These bitches keep callin my phone numbers, home, cell, second line, fax line, party line, and when I try to call back all I get is a busy signal. I oughta whoop they nutha f***in stankin ass. TOPIC - 2062789390 DATE - 07/27/05 01:39:10 FROM - Don'tTestMeBitches NoWhereBitch if its a telemarketer-go to hell. if its tha satelite co. called Sat,inc-yo as is out of line and needs to get yo s*** straight before isue yo ass. if its some sadistic fool God as my witness don't do something you'll regret cause them boys be packin' fo sho. and watchin' fo sho. if its a wrong number call then everybody have a nice day.

Suz--Joined: Aug 01, 2005Posts: 2
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:47 pm

Steve actually found some information that you can't defend, so you say he has no life. Actually I think telemarketers have no life. I needed a job not long ago very badly cuz I was way behind on bills. Everyone kept saying go be a telemarketer. I said HELL NO. I don't care how much I need money, I am not gonna call and bug the hell out of people while they are trying to sleep, trying to eat, trying to bath, trying to spend time with their family, trying to watch their favorite show. I waited and FINALLY the right job came. I am now a professional photographer. Yea I do something that people actually like and want. People call me, not the other way around. I get calls from these assholes all day and night. Most the time they call with an unknown number and will leave blank answering machine messages so my damn answering machine will beep til I get up and listen to the message. I picked up the phone one time during this blank message and said you dumbass it's called an answering machine, u leave a fuckin message or hang up. He said hello? I said fuck this and hung up. I was rude cuz it was when I was trying to sleep and the stupid ass had called 3 times before in the same morning. This morning 3 times I was called while I was trying to sleep so I said screw it and woke up. Then I didn't get any calls. That is until tonight. I got the call from name Sat, and number 206-278-9390. I didn't answer. Next time I will and tell them to put me on the Do Not Call list! So miss thang, think about the people you are waking up in the morning who possibly worked all night, or maybe it's their day off and they are trying to sleep then the phone rings and it's someone wanting their credit card number or something. SO why don't YOU get a life and a better job. One where you don't interupt people's lifes and bug the shit out of them. Suz

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 24
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:43 am

Thanks Suz, Remember, if your on the DNC list ,they can't call you. Report violations to your Attorney General. They can't call after 9:00 pm (your time). They can't use an auto dialer (where it hangs up) a recorded message or have unknown caller on the caller ID. Report these calls to the FTC (877 382 4357).Also call Guardian Communications (309 277 1222) to complain about the sat. inc. call.

Mazilo--Joined: Jun 22, 2005Posts: 80
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:45 am

YeahImATelemarketer wrote:
"What will happen if I call them? Will they grab my phone number from their caller ID and start to put it on their list to call?" HELLO!? Obviously they called you so your number was already on their call list.HELLO? Obviously they have not and/or don't dare to call me and for definitely sure they don't have my number. I want to call them so they will have my number shown on their CID. In this case, will they grab the number on their CID and place it under their call lists? If so, then an average person should not call any telemarketers, except me. The reason is simply I am the King of the Kings who is so resilient to any telemarketers. I reckon this comment of mine really sparks some iration amongs the telemarketers. The reason is simply telemarketers once used to be able to rage people through their calls, but they have become too handicapped to be furious about my UK non-geo number... HA .. HA
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You have some serious issues Mazilo. I wonder how much of your life has been wasted with your war against telemarketers, pretty sad really.Honestly, it is you, the telemarketers, who have some serius issues here. I have wasted no time at all with any telemarketers mainly because my UK non-geo phone number is so resilient against any existing telemarketers (let alone the UK telemarketers) that no telemarketers dares to call and even bugs me @ ANYTIME (that of course including you as a telemarketer). When I said ANYTIME, I really mean at any second, be it I am sleeping with my phone (ringer enabled to loud) placed next to my bed for me to reach or other extensions in my home office, living rooms, kitchen, dining room, even my garage. All the calls I get are within the norms and are from friendly friends and no low-end scum bags like telemarketers and/or surveyors. Don't believe I just said here! I even encourage you to pass along my UK non-geo numbers to your collegues (or your kinds) and have them passed along to their collegues and so on like a pyramid scheme, yet my phone will still be so resilient to any low-end scum bags telemarkaters. I am not just perform a talk-a-talk and walk-a-walk like Dick Gazinya did, but I am speaking for real with factual proofs. Who else in this world can claim and say what I have said here to fight against any telemarketers. The answer is none, zilt, nunka, ngakk ada, nol, unless they setup their telephone system like the one I have now. MY NON-GEO UK PHONE IS NOT ON A DNC LIST, YET IT IS SO RESILIENT AGAINST ANY TELEMARKETERS! MY NON-GEO UK PHONE IS NOT ON A DNC LIST, YET IT IS SO RESILIENT AGAINST ANY TELEMARKETERS! MY NON-GEO UK PHONE IS NOT ON A DNC LIST, YET IT IS SO RESILIENT AGAINST ANY TELEMARKETERS! MY NON-GEO UK PHONE IS NOT ON A DNC LIST, YET IT IS SO RESILIENT AGAINST ANY TELEMARKETERS! MY NON-GEO UK PHONE IS NOT ON A DNC LIST, YET IT IS SO RESILIENT AGAINST ANY TELEMARKETERS!
_________________Mazilo. UK Non-Geo Phone: +44-703-194-2574 e-mail: mazilo@kicking.dick-head-gazinya.BoldlyGoingNoWhere.org (created on Sun Jul 17, 2005 just for DICK GAZINYA to contact me)Last edited by Mazilo on Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:11 pm; edited 1 time in total

tunatom--Joined: Aug 02, 2005Posts: 1
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:06 pm

Ive been on the nocall list since the start those fools called me today how annoying

Kiribub--Joined: Aug 02, 2005Posts: 4
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:23 pm

I find telemarketing calls intrusive. The phone line for which I pay is there for my convenience, not the telemarketers'. I will not, under any circumstances, purchase anything, nor patronize business that employ telemarketers.

Binkley--Joined: Aug 03, 2005Posts: 1
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:47 pm

I've been getting calls from these punks for the past few months. Just got another today with the fake CID "card services - 206-415-8940". An automated recording claiming to be from "your credit card company" needing to discuss my account. Then it mentions a "low interest rate" and says to press 1 for more info. I pressed 1 and informed them what they were doing was illegal, but somehow I doubt they care. I filed a complaint with the FTC and my state consumer protection agency. My state AG actually seemed angered that I bothered to contact them at all. Why have the FTC and the state AGs been taking so long to pursue this?

STV0726--Joined: Aug 08, 2005Posts: 3
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:27 pm

ATTENTION!!! I have spent a lot of time researching this. I have contacted every company with Sat-Inc in their name and DWC. They have nothing to do with it. However, there still is hope. Probably due to complaints, the lines are now open on most (I think all) of those 206 numbers. They took away the 'fast busy signal' blocker and put an answering machine. Leave your phone number to get removed from the list. Not sure if it worked yet but it sounded like it did. Please note that you will have to do that for every number you are getting contacted by. I know it is an inconveinence, but it appears to be the only way to stop these bastards. Oh and by the way: 1.) The fast busy signal is really a "Reorder/Error Tone" and in this case is MOST LIKELY occuring because they blocked incoming calls, intentionally. Not to confuse with bah......bah.....bah. (SLow busy line signal.) 2.) My guess is that those are auto-dials. SAT-INC calls 5 friggin times to here me say "hello" or "Screw off" and they now I'm there. Then DWC calls and automate message of "WANNA VACATION? PRESS 1 I DO ANd SAY DO NOT CALL LIST OR ELSE!" The lady on trhe other line knew nothing about the 206 numbers. Some telemarketer.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 24
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:49 pm

Thanks STVO, What we know so far: Guardian Communications (309 277 1222) owns at least 2 of the 206 #'s ( 206 415 8940 ) card services and ( 206 415 9327 ) guardian. Missouri A.G. subpoenaed Marathon Communications (800 919 1000) and got that info. I also believe they use (206 278 9390) sat.inc (206 415 8880) cust. service and (206 415 9369). When you call all these #'s you get exactly the same message. (206 415 9365) gets Evergreen Sales and Marketing message. (206 415 8614) gets customer service recording with a female voice. (206 415 9322)"survey call" (206 415 8547) health plans and (206 415 9247) corporate office "message in Spanish" still get a fast busy when you call back.The question is, does Guardian use all the 206#'s for different clients or does Marathon provide 206#'s to different telemarketers.

STV0726--Joined: Aug 08, 2005Posts: 3
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:54 pm

My brains are twisted. All'zi no is dat these ppl must be stopped. May the force be with us. (may the phone service be with you.)_ Phone wars EPisode 3: SAT INC strikes back LOL jk acting like a kid So yeah I'll see wut I can find out.

grrr--Joined: Aug 09, 2005Posts: 1
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:30 pm

Ugh, some assclowns just called me on my cellphone and left this ranting VM about free roundtrip air to Orlando and a 1-866 number. CID shows, 206-278-9128. How can these dickweeds legally call me on my dime? Does DNC also work for cellphones?

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 24
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:05 pm

Telemarketers' Reach Extends to Cellphones Aug. 7--It may be time to think about adding your cellphone number to the national Do Not Call list. Although it is illegal for telemarketers to automatically call a cellphone, it is happening as people increasingly rely on the mobile phone instead of land lines. Patty Sosa of Pembroke Pines said such calls can be extremely annoying. "It does bother me," she said. "I have my cellphone for personal use: to keep in contact with my kids." Though wireless numbers are not being distributed to telemarketing companies, more people are transferring and forwarding their home numbers to cellphones. And telemarketers can tap into places people often leave their cellphone numbers, such as take-out delivery and credit-card applications. Federal law bars telemarketers from using automatic dialing systems or prerecorded messages -- standard equipment in the business -- to call cellphones. "Cellphone owners pay for the calls, and it costs them money to get phone calls on cellphone," said Federal Communications Commission spokeswoman Rosemary Kimball. "They shouldn't have to pay for unsolicited advertising calls." Call centers are allowed to dial cellphone numbers by hand, but won't likely do it because it is so time-consuming and labor-intensive, Kimball said. Telemarketers insist that they don't call cellphones on purpose. Companies review their lists every 30 days, according to FCC rules, to scrub them of any cellphone numbers. Cellphones calls may be accidentally placed in between review periods by automatic dialers, said Brianna Clark, manager of the American Teleservices Association, which represents call centers. "Most telemarketers don't realize the numbers they're calling are cellphone numbers," Kimball said. But accidental or not, a violation brings an $11,000 fine. To help avoid the calls, add your cellphone number to the National Do Not Call Registry. In recent months, registration on the Do Not Call list has spiked: Listings that had leveled off at 60 million jumped to 92 million, said Federal Trade Commission spokesman Mitch Katz. The FTC has no way of knowing how many of the new listings are cellphone numbers, but they were added around the same time a chain e-mail was circulating, erroneously alerting people that their cellphones were about to be flooded with telemarketing calls if they didn't get on the list. The anxiety stemmed from a plan to create a national directory assistance, a 411 system, for cellphone numbers. "It got people unnecessarily concerned," Kimball said.eal person and call back later. Both are illegal. One time I got a call from 206 415 9327 (guardian) no answer and 10 min. later a recorded mess. from 206 415 8940 (card services). If anybody has info. please post.


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gwrb--Joined: Aug 11, 2005Posts: 1
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:01 pm

Over the past 3 -/12 weeks I've received a total of 12 calls 4 from 206-278-9248 and 8 from 206-415-9063. They generally occur while I'm outt, though there was one earlier this evening that I ignored when I saw the number. Once they left a partial message on my answering machine "...an agent will be with you shortly" followed by some hold music. I only see the phone number and the city Seattle, WA) on my caller ID -- I get that on *some* local calls as wellas I'm not with the local "baby Bell" but a competitor. I suspect that these are 2 other numbers being used by SOME telemarketer. When I called my phone co. tonight to complain , she said there was nothing THEY could do but did mention Call Trace (*57). You need to do it BEFORE there's another call - and notify the local police. They need 3 instances of the traced #. This could be one more tool to use aginst these SOBs who won't obey the rules! I've been on the DNC list ever since I got my current number (and was on it at my old address & phone #).

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:41 am

Thanks gwrb, Whenever you, or anybody, gets an unknown 206 call, phone Guardian Communications (309 277 1222) and complain. Ask to be put on their DNC list. If they say o.k. then we know they have a new #. Post here. This is helpful to everybody,esp. those filing lawsuits against Guardian.I called (206 278 9248) got fast busy. (206 415 9063) got FDM an "outbound call center who represents many clients across the country... leave #...thank you for calling." Report these calls to your Attorney General.

Suz--Joined: Aug 01, 2005Posts: 2
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:05 am

OMG they are calling cells now? Geez. Can't get any peace at home and now ya can't get any when you are away from home. My god! Pathetic freakin jerks. Thanks Steve and sorry it took so long to reply. I have been working...at a real job, not some shitty telemarketing crap. I am glad I have a job I love (taking pictures). I wish there was a law against them calling anyone. Are we going to have to eventually get our phone lines like our yahoo accounts and only allow people on a list to call us (IM us on yahoo)? LOL. Suz

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:22 pm

Guardian Communications has a new number. Received calls from (269 537 2031) and (269 537 2020) both Customer Service on CID. Googled and got this."Telemarketer Report I registered my number with the National Do Not Call Registry and to my amazement, the calls have all but ceased. Although, there is one company not getting the message. The number showing up when they call is 269-537-2031. I have done a reverse directory search and nothing comes up but the area code and prefex is located in Niles, Michigan. When they call, it is an automated message about health care providers or something. Takes the stupid message almost a full minute to come on. This does not seem like it would be too productive for telemarketing because I think most people would think that nobody was there and just hang up. Anyway, I called the morons back (this is my third and final request) and asked to be removed, letting them know I am on the National Registry and if they call again, I will be reporting them. I want them to call. **Update: This company called back with the number 269-537-2020 and I again asked to be taken off and threatened them again with reporting them. I will give them 24 hours." The weird thing is, Niles Michigan was the source of this- "Sheriff issues scam warning Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:06 AM EDT ST. JOSEPH - Berrien County's Sheriff's Office would like to remind citizens that your telephone is one of the easiest ways for a con artist to get your money. Your telephone is used as an easy entrance to the home, largely because it makes detection and prosecution difficult. Telemarketers sweet-talk American consumers out of more than $40 million a year. The Berrien County Sheriff's Office March 30 took an attempted telephone fraud concerning a refund of back income taxes, according to Deputy Karen Klug of the Crime Prevention Unit. The caller identified themselves as federal government IRS agents and called the home owner by name. The female agent stated that the home owner had a large refund to collect due to uncollected past income taxes. The IRS agent stated that she needed the home owner's current name, address, Social Security number and bank information to forward the refund. The home owner had caller ID and obtained the telephone number. The alert home owner hung up and contacted the sheriff's office. The investigating deputy called the number and obtained the name of Guardian out of Seattle, Wash., with a telephone number of (206) 415-9327. The deputy, upon calling the number back, stated it does nothing but ring." Did Guardian steal a number from somebody or am I in the telemarketing Twilight Zone.

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:18 am

I work for a phone company and my full time job is troubleshooting customer issues. Some of these issues are regarding unwanted calls just like this BLOG is describing. My investigations have revealed some VERY interesting results. First of all, the numbers that show up on your CALLER ID in most of these cases is controlled by the originating caller, not the phone company. What this means is that phone customers with a specific telecom product and specialized phone equipment CAN DISPLAY ANY NUMBER THEY WANT. This is called CALLER ID SPOOFING and it's becoming more and more common. Never assume the call you just answered really came from the number that shows up on your CALLER ID. I would say less than 5% of the time, that is the case. 95% of the time, the number is SPOOFED. Why do they SPOOF? it's simple, they don;t want you calling them back and unless they display something, most residences reject annonymous calls. What can you do about it? Well, it's starts by contacting your local phone provider. They can TRAP the calls and determine the BILLING NUMBER which is not SPOOFABLE. Posted by: DC at August 16, 2005 05:10 PM at UnplannedThought.com

steve--Joined: Jul 02, 2005Posts: 28
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:07 am

http://anti206.blogspot.com/ My blog dedicated to stopping illegal (206) telemarketing. A place for people to get info and post. So they don't have to use sites not intended for antitelemarketing, like double reading blog. http://thecompany.net/jason/posts/2005/206-415-xxxx/ and payphone-directory.orghttp://www.payphone-directory.org/discussion/sub2.html

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